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Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:10 pm

Hi,

If a unit that was disordered fails a cohesion test due to firing damage and gets permanent losses in his VBU, it loses 1 VBU in addition due to accumulation of disorder, like in melee and Impetus?

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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Scruff on Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:14 am

Ill have to double check my poor old brain,

but if you take a permanent loss you never take an additional loss to disorder on disorder but if you dont take a loss and you get a disorder result while disordered then you take a loss.

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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Zippee on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:35 am

If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:07 pm

Zippee wrote:If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
Ok, but only for firing damage?. In melee the unit always lose a point due to accumulated disorder, it's correct?

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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Lemurcat on Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:40 pm

HB,
No that's not correct. It does not matter if you are in melee or shot at. If you are disordered and pass your cohesion test, you suffer one point of damage to VBU.

If you fail your cohesion test, you suffer that many points of damage to VBU.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Zippee on Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:26 pm

Hannibaal_Barca wrote:
Zippee wrote:If if you are "hit" whilst disordered you lose a VBU this is due to "accumulation of disorder".

This is true regardless of whether the "hit" was due to melee or ranged combat.

You cannot "lose a combat" due to this loss - it is representational of loss of order only.

This is not an "additional loss" - if the CT result means you lose VBU, then you lose that VBU regardless of disorder. You do not lose an additional VBU for being disordered.

You only lose the single point of VBU to "accumulated disorder" if you were "hit" but passed the CT.
Ok, but only for firing damage?. In melee the unit always lose a point due to accumulated disorder, it's correct?

No it applies to both melee and ranged - the only mechanical difference between melee and ranged combat (other than the factors and modifiers) is that in melee you can be forced to retreat and thus can trigger a pursuit. And the fact that both sides are at risk.
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Re: Accumulation of disorder

Post by Hannibaal_Barca on Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:40 pm

Thank you for your answers.

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